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What to do if you drop your E71 in a torrent

I had a small lunch time adventure today: I accidentally dropped my Nokia E71 into a raging torrent (the watery kind, not the bit kind). Aside from a chance for some quick sympathy or laughter, depending on your disposition, I thought it might be a good opportunity to refresh some of the actions you can take if this happens to you. I would also be pleased to hear your stories and recommendations for follow up action!

I managed to trip over a fence, face plant onto a bridge and then turn my head just in time to witness the E71 going 'plop'. Unfortunately there has had quite a lot of rain in the last week and as a result the stream was rather full and was also very very cold. After wading around in waist deep water for about 10 minutes I did manage to locate the E71.

Stream

Not good: deep stream with lots of water after heavy rain. Noooo!

So, what to do next?

Warranty policies and insurance generally do not cover water damage so you are largely on your own. You need to be realistic, there is a good chance the phone will never work again. A lot does depend on the circumstances (what you dropped it in and for how long). It is also likely that the phone will never be quite the same again (for example camera modules are especially sensitive to water damage, and there's a higher chance of subsequent failure due to corrosion and or later damage).

However there are a number of steps you can take to ensure the best possible chance for a positive outcome.

Here are a set of instructions to follow if your phone is immersed in water:

  1. Get it out of the water as soon as possible.
  2. Take the battery out as soon as possible.
  3. Take out the SIM card, memory card and take off any other detachable components.
  4. Dry the phone off as best as you can.
  5. Place the phone in a warm dry place (an airing cupboard is ideal) and leave it their for at least 3 days.
  6. Hope for the best!

Getting the battery out as quickly as you can is important because it is a short circuit that is most likely to damage your phone. It may be worthwhile disassembling the phone in order to allow it to dry out more easily. How this is not always an easy thing to do and often requires specialist tools. It is a good idea to place the phone in a container surrounded by rice or a similar water absorbing material while it is drying. This helps the dry process and can draw out water from the inner workings.

Rice

If you dropped the phone into salty water or a drink of some kind it may be a good idea to rinse the phone in fresh water once you have removed the battery. Generally further rinsing will not damage the phone further, but may help to remove minerals and materials that can cause short circuits. You can also do the same thing with an alcohol solution, although the chance are you will not have this to hand.

As for my E71 - it's now sitting drying out (and I'm still feeling a bit frozen). I'll report back in a few days with a status update... It doesn't look too good though as prolonged exposure the silt laden water has a good chance of being terminal.

Please do share your stories and tips in the comment thread.

 

Published by Rafe Blandford at 15:51 UTC, November 12th

Categories: Hardware, Editorial Thoughts
Platforms: General, S60 3rd Edition

News Discussion

Tzer2
Comment: Handy guide Rafe, the rice is an interesting off-beat suggestion.

If it doesn't work, maybe you could do a follow-up on using spare parts from ebay? :-)
Nemoi
Comment: uh-oh, you have my full sympathy there, Rafe!

unfortunately i can't give you or other readers with similar problems any tips, except maybe the obvious, that is to backup reguarly. For sometimes losing ones data can be even worse than losing the hardware itself. But I'm sure you already did that ;)
Rafe
Comment: Yes all my data sits in the cloud and on my desktop PC so no worries there.

I'm annoyed about the hardware as the E71 has been my main phone since June (a long period for me). I've onviously had other phones in for review, but the E71 has been a loyal messaging companion (I tend to carry an Nseries around too for camera / multimedia etc.)
Unregistered
Comment: Shame :(. This little adventure of yours reminds of a small event in my life. My cousin poured water on my 2h old Nokia 5110. It just came out on the shelves, I bought it and it was...ruined :(. I used fans, even a compressor to dry the thing out. It died on me :(.
Unregistered
Comment: i dropped my e51 in the ocean while jet skiing. and i really liked that phone...
macwhu
Comment: yikes - i dont think ive suffered water damage but my wife has had the kids put her N70 and N95 in glasses of water/orange juice.

The N70 died almost imediately - it was only in 1 cm of juice so not even soaked.
the N95 battled on for a few days but then the screen went - it otherwise worked

both were replaced on insurance. there was a £25 excess.
Rafe
Comment: [quote=Unregistered;400469]i dropped my e51 in the ocean while jet skiing. and i really liked that phone...[/quote]

You took your E51 jet-skiing - wow - lucky phone :)
Insane Reindeer
Comment: Well my N91 has never been wet but my wife's 5700 got totally immersed in about a litre of a bottled mineral water during June of this year. Was soaking for a good 10mins before the wife noticed. I think the only reason it still works today (well apart from the camera) is that it happened on one of the hottest days of the year here in Finland and we were off to watch some athletics, so it was taken apart as much as possible and left to sit on the baking hot concrete steps of the stadium we were at for about 30mins and then reassembled. It works fine to this day. Some quirks beside the camera, the text message inbox can sometime reorder the messages in which ever way it wants, and needs some coaxing to get it back to normal. And the phone call volume is will not go up that last bar to full volume.

I did do a complete re-install of the firmware and all apps and things the next day, so I would add that that is something that should always be done if the phone shows any sign of live after being dried out.

I hope that the E71 shows some sign of continuing it's life soon. And with the winter weather coming in fast I am sure that I shall unfortunately need to share this article around at some point in the next few months.
Unregistered
Comment: Ha dropped my 9300 in the drink years ago. This is what I did...
1-remove battery
2- saturate electronics & connectors with WD-40 (The WD in WD-40 stands for water displacement)
3- wipe off
4- let dry for min 6 hours
5- Suggest getting a new battery...if battery had a leak and water got into it it can explode while charging (or give it a good soaking in WD-40)

Worked perfectly after that

Hope it turns out o.k.
-EJ
Unregistered
Comment: I accidentally dropped my iPod classic in the bathtub. From the the sounds of despair emanating from it, I was sure it was dying, but as a desperate emasure, I put it on low ehat in the oven for a few hours. Lo and behold, after taking it out and cooling it down, it worked, and four months on, it is still running perfectly.
Unregistered
Comment: You need some silica gel. But remember, DO NOT EAT it!

I admire your determination. I'm afraid I would have let the phone go. Did you jump in in your trousers

I put an SD card through the wash once. Turns out they're pretty much indestructable!!

Good luck with your E71. Let us know if it survives!!
Rafe
Comment: Well I'm quite attached to my E71 (I actually wanted the SIM card back more than anything).

I did think before jumping in - went and got a swimming costume. But it was cold so it was definetely above and beyond the call of duty.

Good idea on the Silica Gel. I'm sure I have some of those tucked away.
Unregistered
Comment: I've tried to destroy few of the S60 phones with water. I dropped 660 into toilet, it worked fine after few sessions with hairdryer. Second incident was with E70 when I accidentally dropped it to glass of water... Again few sessions with hairdryer and it worked again. I also waited day or so before turning them on.
buster
Comment: My E90 and my Sony HDD video camera both got soaked in June, after a water bottle leaked in my bag. After allowing them to dry thoroughly (minimum of 6 days, according to Nokia Nederland) both devices recovered completely. I would not recommend using WD-40 on sensitive electronics, and allowing 6 hours drying time is certainly not long enough before re-applying the power to a water-damaged device...
jpwbamber
Comment: After dropping my N95 onto concrete so many times that the battery came loose and had to be wedged with a sliver of card. I now use a lanyard and carry my phone round my neck. I have also moved on to an N82.
Pablo:)
Comment: A water sensor inside the phone would be great!. Imagine that, you drop the phone and it shut down itself. Wait, can be done with the accelerometer?? like the Lenovo“s mechanism that turn of the Hrd Drive if the laptop is droped.
Chrissybear
Comment: [quote=Unregistered;400479]Ha dropped my 9300 in the drink years ago. This is what I did...
1-remove battery
2- saturate electronics & connectors with WD-40 (The WD in WD-40 stands for water displacement)
3- wipe off
4- let dry for min 6 hours
5- Suggest getting a new battery...if battery had a leak and water got into it it can explode while charging (or give it a good soaking in WD-40)

Worked perfectly after that

Hope it turns out o.k.
-EJ[/quote]

That's because Series 80 phones are still the DBs when it come to reliability ;)
Unregistered
Comment: Best of luck Rafe. Your patience is admirable.

My beloved E90 went into the swimming pool with me this summer. Our two dogs were rampaging around the decking and caught me off balance. As I live in Arizona, it was around 105F so I did not really mind the ducking, until the thought streaked across my mind that my phone was still in my pocket! I dug into my pocket and retrieved the E90 in time to see the front display go dark.

I managed to get out of the water and remove the battery cover and battery fairly quickly. The moisture monitor was already turning light-red (it remains so to this day), and water continued to drip from various openings in the case. I removed the SD and SIM cards and opened the cover then gave everything a good shake. I blew canned air into every port and opening over the next ten minutes or so. I then placed it half-opened on the connector-end on a cupboard shelf atop several thicknesses of paper towels and left it to dry. That seemed the best bet, as our relative humidity runs about 15-20% in summer.

The SD card was fine, and the SIM brought up my trusty 9300 as a backup, but I was near frantic to find out the status of my E90. I managed to wait a total of 25 hours. I had read on the web that it might be a good idea to rinse any electrical device that has gone into saline or chlorinated water, but I could not bring myself to immerse the phone again, so I merely popped-in a backup battery, and fired the phone up.

Everything worked! The displays were funky for another 48 hours, but both of them cleared up as well. The only lasting damage appeared to be the camera, which only worked intermittently for several months. I had concluded that the camera was a small price to pay for getting the rest of the phone back, when I applied the latest firmware update (v300) and now it is just as reliable as before going for a swim. Love that phone.
Tzer2
Comment: [quote]The moisture monitor was already turning light-red (it remains so to this day)[/quote]

Just out of interest, what are you referring to?
srw985
Comment: [quote=Tzer2;400519]Just out of interest, what are you referring to?[/quote]

Little round white sticker, usually under battery
When it gets wet it turns red
Unregistered
Comment: 100% Ethanol (absolute alcohol) has dehydrating properties.
shoobe01
Comment: People I know who have had repeated good luck with recovering electronics swear by soaking in water. Pure distilled. Not tapwater at all. Unfortunately, soaking is days or weeks. Then days to dry. A little long to be without your mobile phone.

Even then, it's about 80-90% reliability. Any other method I have seen or tried is totally hit and miss. Success is anecdotal.

And I have seen so much evil from WD-40 that I will not use it for anything. Yipes.
J D
Comment: I was heading out to a friends house, so i quickly grabbed a couple of bottles of wine and plonked them into my bag.... along with my Nokia N810 and my ipod.

The two bottles of wine clunked together breaking one of them and completely imersing both devices in red wine. I took the N810's battery relatively quickly, but i cant say the same for the ipod. I couldnt even turn the bloody thing off! I think if i could have it might have had a chance.

I cleaned my N810 first with fresh water then soaked it in isopropyl alcohol. With the exception of the camera it still works to this day... but i did end up replacing the LCD because it had an annoying amount of red wine stuck in it.
Tzer2
Comment: [quote]Little round white sticker, usually under battery
When it gets wet it turns red[/quote]

This is a bit embarassing, but I have never ever heard of these moisture monitor stickers. :-)

Are they things you add to a phone yourself, or do they come as standard with some devices? I couldn't find one on any of the phones I currently have.
Steve_
Comment: My first week with my e71, I knocked it off the sofa, stood up to look for it and heard the most dreadful sound in the world: crunch. I shattered the screen. Thankfully, it was a corporate phone and they re-issued me another e71. They threatened a Nokia 1100 if it ever happened again! :-)

As for water, my Blackberry Curve had an unfortunate accident in my dog's water bowl when I bent down to feed him. I took it out immediately and wrapped it in paper towels. It still works to this day.

 

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