Nokia N85 - the dual slider evolves: OLED, USB charging, tri-band WCDMA
The Nokia N85, the latest edition to Nokia's Nseries range, was announced today. With AM OLED screen technology, tri-band WCDMA (3G) cellular radio, USB charging, and preloaded Ovi content and services, the multimedia-centric N85 delivers the latest evolution of Nokia's dual slider form factor.
The N85 boasts the usual impressive Nseries specification list: 5 megapixel camera (with dual LED flash and lens cover), integrated GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth connectivity, FM transmitter and TV-out. The N85 will be available from October at a price of €450 (£350) before taxes and subsidies. Read on for more.
The N85 is Nokia's smallest dual-slider Nseries handset so far and offers a number of key technological advancements (explained below). It manages to do this while significantly lowering the launch price compared to its predecessors (N95 family) and thus opens up the higher end of Nokia's Nseries portfolio to a wider audience. The N85 looks set to follow in the footsteps of the N73 and N95 as an iconic handset for Nseries.
In terms of positioning the N85 is a mid to high end Nseries and sits in between the N78/N9 and the N96. It can be seen as a replacement for the N80 and N81 and complimentary the N95 family.
The N85 follows the design language of the N96 and N78 with the 3D 'adzed' plastic on the back of the device, the hard silver / grey plastics on the side of the device and a predominantly flat, black and shiny plastic on the front of the device. It also has the hidden-till-lit control key cluster design, made from a single piece of plastic, but with each key having its own key dome.
The N85 will be one of the first Nseries to ship with the full range of Ovi services and software on the handset out of the box.
(Update) See Also:
Feature: N85 hands-on first impressions (including comparison images)
Gallery: Nokia N85
Key points about the N85 hardware:
- 2.6 inch, QVGA (240 x 320) AM OLED screen with 16 million colours. AM OLED screens have a number of advantages: they generally draw less power, and have better performance for colour gamut, response time, and contrast. See below for more on AM OLED.
- Tri-band WCDMA cellular and quad band GSM radios, which means 3G data connectivity or calling can be used worldwide. There will be three N85 variants: a European and Asian model (WCDMA 2100/1900/900), an Americas model (WCDMA 2100/1900/850) and an EDGE/GSM only model for the Chinese market. See below for an explanation of WCDMA bands.
- USB charging. The N85 is the first Nokia S60 model to support USB charging and the first Nokia device to support simultaneous charging and data transfer. The microUSB (Hi-Speed USB 2.0) connector is also used for PC connectivity, media sync, printing and USB mass storage (client). The N85 does not have a 2mm power port, instead a microUSB charger (Nokia AC-10) will be provided.
- Dimensions of 103 x 50 x 16mm and a weight of 128g make the N85 at least 25% thinner than previous dual sliders (N95 8GB: 21mm, N96 20mm). It is also the smallest in overall volume at 76cc (N96 is 92cc, N95 8GB is 96cc).
- 5 megapixel camera (2584 x 1938), which is protected by a sliding lens cover and accompanied by a dual LED flash/photo light and lens cover. The lens uses Carl Zeiss optics and has an aperture of F2.8 and focal length of 5.45mm. Video capture is at VGA resolution at 30 frames per second.
- The camera's dual LED flash has optimised micro-optics. The gain is better than earlier devices with freshnel lenses. Essentially this means the flash will provide greater illumination. Using an LED flash means it can be used in both video and photo mode.
- Intelligent key illumination - the upper slide keys illuminate according to their current function. In music and video playback, the multimedia shortcut controls are shown. In N-Gage games, two circles represent the dedicated gaming keys. Similarly, the control cluster only illuminates when the key functions are available (e.g. switched off in camera mode).
- Touch sensitive NaviWheel for scrolling in user interface. Auto screen rotation powered by integrated accelerometer sensor.
- 8GB microSD memory card included in the box. 70 MB of internal memory with 128 MB of RAM (around 75MB free after boot up).
- Integrated FM transmitter (as first seen in the N78) and FM radio with RDS support.
- 3.5mm stereo headphone jack (on the top of the device), which is also used for TV-out. Twin stereo speakers are located on the top and bottom of the right-hand-side of the device (above and below the volume and camera capture keys respectively).
- Integrated GPS (with support for A-GPS), which is used for GPS navigation and geotagging photos. The GPS antennae is located on the back of the, near the top end of the device around the camera area. This should give it the optimum position for reception regardless of the slide mode.
- WiFi (802.11b/g) and Bluetooth connectivity, including support for A2DP and AVRCP profiles (Bluetooth stereo headphones).
- Nokia BL-5K battery (1200 mAh) with quoted standby time of 300 hours. 25 hours of music playback (offline mode). In the real world this should be sufficient for a day of heavy usage.
- The in-box accessories for the N85 are stereo headset/controller (HS-45/AD-54), high power charger (AC-10), connectivity cable (CA-101), 8GB microSD card, and TV-out cable (CA-75U).
Key points about the N85 software:
- Runs S60 3rd Edition Feature Pack 2 on Symbian OS 9.3.
- Photos application on phone for viewing photos, organizing into albums, printing locally, and adding meta-data/tags. Share online application for uploading photos and video to Flickr, Share on Ovi and other web services, with XpressPrint application for printing photos via the web. Bi-directional media sync between Photos application on the handset and Nokia Photos for PC.
- Music player (MP3, AAC eAAC+ and WMA) and Nokia Music Store applications on the handset. As with current handsets (in some markets) a few music tracks are likely to be preloaded on the memory card. Intially the Nokia Music Manager software will be used for side loading. Nokia Music PC client, currently in beta, may replace this at a later date.
- Video Centre can be used to download video on the device via RSS feed. (H.264, H.263, RV 8/9/10, and WMV). WMV can be handled at VGA resolution at 30 frames per second (downsized to QVGA on handset, but full resolution used for TV-out). Side loading of videos is supported by Nokia Video Manager.
- UPnP software suite for controlling remote UPnP servers, control points and renderers, making on-device multimedia available to other UPnP devices, and syncing on-device media to UPnP server. A Nokia-branded version of Simple Center software is included in the box.
- Nokia Maps 2.0 (3 months free navigation in selected markets) for driving or walking navigation will be available out of the box. Maps for the appropriate local area will be preloaded on the microSD card.
- The full N-Gage client application will be available out of the box. The N85 will ship with 15 N-Gage games preloaded and there will be an in-box voucher that will let you activate one of these games for free.
N85 Video demo, courtesy of Nokia Conversations
AM OLED Screen Technology
The N85 has a new screen technology - AM OLED, but what is it and what does it mean for you?
OLED, also known as LEP (light emitting polymer), is a screen made up of small dots of organic polymers that, when charged with electricity, emit light. The advantage of OLED displays are that they are generally brighter, have a better colour gamut (numbers of colours that can be accurately displayed at same time), have better contrast ratio, have a better response time, have better viewing angles and use less power. In contrast to traditional TFT LCD displays they do not require a back light.
AM OLED is a technology that combines the active matrix back plane, from a traditional TFT screen, with an OLED display. AM OLED displays, because of their active matrix nature, are quicker to switch pixels and thus give better performance for fast moving, on-screen changes such as animation and video.
What this means is that the N85's screen, compared to earlier Nseries devices, will have:
- Reduced power consumption. In normal uses cases AM OLED requires 30-40% less power than a LCD screen. The power used is related to what is shown on the screen - the darker the screen the less power is used, conversely a predominantly white screen will use more power.
- A better contrast ratio (ratio of the luminance of the brightest color, white, to that of the darkest color, black). Roughly 1:1300 compared to 1:500. Black is truly black on an AM OLED screen as there is no back-light and therefore no 'light-leakage'.
- A better viewing angle - around 180°.
- A greater number of different colours on the screen at one time.
- A brighter screen for the same amount of power.
Tri-Band WCDMA
The N85 has tri-band WCDMA cellular radios in two different variants - a European and Asian one (WCDMA 2100/1900/900), an Americas one (WCDMA 2100/1900/850). Previously Nokia has had dual band WCDMA devices.
There are four commonly used WCDMA bands:
- Band I: (WCDMA 2100) in Europe, Africa, Asia, Oceania and Brazil
- Band II: (WCDMA 1900) in North America and South America
- Band V: (WCDMA 850) in Australia, Brazil, Canada, the USA, other parts of South America, and parts of Asia
- Band VIII: (WCDMA 900) in Europe, Asia, Oceania, and Australia
Tri-band WCDMA means that the N85 should be usable, in 3G mode, in most countries. Currently 2100 and 1900 are the most commonly used bands.
N85 versus N96 size comparison
Published by Rafe Blandford at 8:01 UTC, August 26th
Categories: Hardware
Platforms: S60 3rd Edition
News Discussion
Unregistered
Comment: We managed to get some time with the N85 last week and shot video and live photos of it.
Check them out at: [url]http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=5159[/url]
Check them out at: [url]http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=5159[/url]
snoyt
Comment: N82 impressive specifications. I absolutely love the size of the thing. Just on question? Where, where did they but the GPS sensor? Does it need 'slide open'?
In other words: Do I want to trade my freshly bought N82 for it?
In other words: Do I want to trade my freshly bought N82 for it?
Rafe
Comment: If you read the news story you'll note I mentioned the GPS antennae is around the camera area on the back of the device (top end). Should be good for reception.
Tzer2
Comment: Would it be fair to call this a "Diet N96" or "N96 Light"? :-)
Rafe
Comment: Tzer2 - I guess so... to be honest I see the N79, N85 and N96 being the main Nseries line up going into 2009. Clearly the other devices are still going to be sold in significant numbers, but what we now have is a starting point, a mid point and a high point. Its a matter for debate whether the high point has enough extra to justify a significant extra price IMHO.
stuclark
Comment: Remind me again why anyone would want to buy the N96?
Smurphboy
Comment: [quote=stuclark;389091]Remind me again why anyone would want to buy the N96?[/quote]
People who want a duller screen, a bigger phone and don't like USB charging??? ;)
Seriously though - it looks to me like the N96 will appeal if 24GB of storage is your thing...
SM
People who want a duller screen, a bigger phone and don't like USB charging??? ;)
Seriously though - it looks to me like the N96 will appeal if 24GB of storage is your thing...
SM
nj7
Comment: Boring phones, more of the same, more of the same, always the same:frown:
Tzer2
Comment: [quote]Remind me again why anyone would want to buy the N96?[/quote]
Well, if you want a serious answer ;-) maybe the 16GB of on-board (plus 8GB or more from memory cards) is one pulling factor, you should see the price difference between iPhones of different storage capacity.
The 2.8" screen probably also helps, especially when you consider the video-centric nature of the N96 (including DVB-H in some countries).
But you're right, other models are probably catching up more quickly than expected.
[quote]Boring phones, more of the same, more of the same, always the same[/quote]
The same but cheaper?
I think the idea of the N85 is to provide the same specs as previous highest-end models but at a slightly cheaper price.
Starting at a lower price would reach a different audience to the previous models. It's still pretty expensive though.
Well, if you want a serious answer ;-) maybe the 16GB of on-board (plus 8GB or more from memory cards) is one pulling factor, you should see the price difference between iPhones of different storage capacity.
The 2.8" screen probably also helps, especially when you consider the video-centric nature of the N96 (including DVB-H in some countries).
But you're right, other models are probably catching up more quickly than expected.
[quote]Boring phones, more of the same, more of the same, always the same[/quote]
The same but cheaper?
I think the idea of the N85 is to provide the same specs as previous highest-end models but at a slightly cheaper price.
Starting at a lower price would reach a different audience to the previous models. It's still pretty expensive though.
Unregistered
Comment: n96 has a bigger screen, tv, more memory
how about the ram?
the price?
how about the ram?
the price?
dougalzene
Comment: [quote]n96 has a bigger screen, tv, more memory[/quote]
TV on your holidays, maybe
TV on your holidays, maybe
lookatbowen
Comment: Would it be fair to say this phone is an upgrade from the N95 (original)?
I like the fact that it has a bigger battery. I also notice it's slightly heavier than the N95 (again, must be the battery).
Just a pity it's not Quad Band.
It's a good looking phone.
I like the fact that it has a bigger battery. I also notice it's slightly heavier than the N95 (again, must be the battery).
Just a pity it's not Quad Band.
It's a good looking phone.
Tzer2
Comment: [quote]Just a pity it's not Quad Band.[/quote]
It's Quadband GSM, Triband 3G/WCDMA.
I'm not sure there are any Quadband 3G phones yet, are there?
It's Quadband GSM, Triband 3G/WCDMA.
I'm not sure there are any Quadband 3G phones yet, are there?
Unregistered
Comment: what about 5800 tube? :)
hargs48
Comment: Its about time we get USB Charging out the box....:cool:
but really both devices have a very-high spec for "low to medium range" N-Series smartphones.
Whats impressing me the most is the dimensions & weight of both phones,Nokia are really cramming lots of tech into devices that are more compact than many "dumb" phones...
And great idea putting so much demos + one free game,out the box with the N85,to promote the N-Gage brand
but really both devices have a very-high spec for "low to medium range" N-Series smartphones.
Whats impressing me the most is the dimensions & weight of both phones,Nokia are really cramming lots of tech into devices that are more compact than many "dumb" phones...
And great idea putting so much demos + one free game,out the box with the N85,to promote the N-Gage brand
ashu
Comment: Well I have been defending my n 82 and its keypad rather aggressively all along! but i guess, this is it. I had actually gone ahead and pre booked n 96 with one of the nokia dealers but guess, would need to cancel that now! (How sad!!). It does not come with TV, (who needs it anyway, i prefer my bravia for that!), Xenon flash (that one, i will need to convince myself that i can do WITHOUT xenon, don't know about that as of now..). Storage is not a prob with me (to share a secret, i am still on a 2 gb card!)
So what is left is the slider part. Nokia generally have been lousy in that department, so will need to test run one before taking the plunge but it will be heavy on pocket. INR 28,834. (gulp!)
So what is left is the slider part. Nokia generally have been lousy in that department, so will need to test run one before taking the plunge but it will be heavy on pocket. INR 28,834. (gulp!)
bartmanekul
Comment: I reckon this makes the N96 redundant for most people in the UK.
Much thinner, better battery, the only drawback is that the screen is 2.6 rather than 2.8.
Why would you pay more for a much fatter phone with a useless function (DVB)?
I suppose the extra 16GB on the N96 is going to be the decider for some.
Much thinner, better battery, the only drawback is that the screen is 2.6 rather than 2.8.
Why would you pay more for a much fatter phone with a useless function (DVB)?
I suppose the extra 16GB on the N96 is going to be the decider for some.
Tzer2
Comment: [quote]I suppose the extra 16GB on the N96 is going to be the decider for some.[/quote]
I wouldn't underestimate that, it can be quite a major specification that people look for, like the megapixel count on cameras.
16gb on board memory PLUS the memory card slot which can officially take 8gb and unofficially perhaps 16gb, that's a total of 24gb to 32gb which is a huge amount compared to most other devices in this class.
I wouldn't underestimate that, it can be quite a major specification that people look for, like the megapixel count on cameras.
16gb on board memory PLUS the memory card slot which can officially take 8gb and unofficially perhaps 16gb, that's a total of 24gb to 32gb which is a huge amount compared to most other devices in this class.
missInnocent
Comment: That lady in the video sure sounds....motivated.
Nice one, I think I'll have to make myself a Christmas present.
Nice one, I think I'll have to make myself a Christmas present.
Smurphboy
Comment: I'm not sure that the closeness in spec of the N85 and the N96 is a bad thing.
I picked up from the virtual event videos that Nokia are trying a lot of different things with handsets and letting the market decide. That has to be a good thing for consumers. If the N96 and the N85 both sell well then expect to see more high-spec phones rather than a single flagship phone. For nearly two years we have had the N95 as the flagship and an array of cheaper (and frankly not as good) mid-range phones.
I like having to decide between the N96 and the N85 - its about time picking a decent smartphone involved more choice - if nothing else it will give Steve Lichfield more traffic to his smartphone grid.
Now if only Nokia would make Ovi integrate as well as the iPhone integrates with a Mac...
I picked up from the virtual event videos that Nokia are trying a lot of different things with handsets and letting the market decide. That has to be a good thing for consumers. If the N96 and the N85 both sell well then expect to see more high-spec phones rather than a single flagship phone. For nearly two years we have had the N95 as the flagship and an array of cheaper (and frankly not as good) mid-range phones.
I like having to decide between the N96 and the N85 - its about time picking a decent smartphone involved more choice - if nothing else it will give Steve Lichfield more traffic to his smartphone grid.
Now if only Nokia would make Ovi integrate as well as the iPhone integrates with a Mac...
snoyt
Comment: [quote=Rafe;389087]If you read the news story you'll note I mentioned the GPS antennae is around the camera area on the back of the device (top end). Should be good for reception.[/quote]
Thanks, I had only time to scan the post briefly. Looking forward to some extensive flash comparison tests with the N82. The xenon flash of the N82 will most likely always have the shortest flash time and thus less troubled by motion blur in flash pictures. Also Xenon has the most natural and continuous colorspectrum giving better color when using flash. Still the dual led setup is a very nice compromise between video and photo and most likely a damn handy pocket light if my experiences with the SE W800i are an indication ;^)
Thanks, I had only time to scan the post briefly. Looking forward to some extensive flash comparison tests with the N82. The xenon flash of the N82 will most likely always have the shortest flash time and thus less troubled by motion blur in flash pictures. Also Xenon has the most natural and continuous colorspectrum giving better color when using flash. Still the dual led setup is a very nice compromise between video and photo and most likely a damn handy pocket light if my experiences with the SE W800i are an indication ;^)
Super Chimp
Comment: Their seems to be a mistake in the news item as it says it's available from November when the Nokia press release says it is available from October. See link below.
[url="http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1246129"]Link[/url].
[url="http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1246129"]Link[/url].
Rafe
Comment: [quote=Super Chimp;389119]Their seems to be a mistake in the news item as it says it's available from November when the Nokia press release says it is available from October. See link below.
[url="http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1246129"]Link[/url].[/quote]
Thanks superchimp, I will correct this (was correct AFAIK at time of writing). As I'm sure you know I suspect November might be more accurate as to when most people can get it in their hands!
[url="http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1246129"]Link[/url].[/quote]
Thanks superchimp, I will correct this (was correct AFAIK at time of writing). As I'm sure you know I suspect November might be more accurate as to when most people can get it in their hands!
Ratkat
Comment: Nice phone but......once again too little too late.
5 megapixel is old hat compared with 8 megapixel offerings from LG and Samsung
OLED screen is nice, but with the same old QVGA 240 x 320 resolution, they really should start to think about VGA now.
To be brutally honest apart from looking prettier, the N85, N79 and N96 have nothing new that make them a worthy upgrade from the now the 18 month old N95.
With the exception of the superb E71 and E66 with their outstanding build quality Nokia really seem to have lost the plot with their forthcoming handsets, they are all basically re-hashes of the N95
5 megapixel is old hat compared with 8 megapixel offerings from LG and Samsung
OLED screen is nice, but with the same old QVGA 240 x 320 resolution, they really should start to think about VGA now.
To be brutally honest apart from looking prettier, the N85, N79 and N96 have nothing new that make them a worthy upgrade from the now the 18 month old N95.
With the exception of the superb E71 and E66 with their outstanding build quality Nokia really seem to have lost the plot with their forthcoming handsets, they are all basically re-hashes of the N95
brendan
Comment: Looks like a nice phone.
Ive done a fair bit of Nokia bashing lately - to me, at least their recent phones haven't really been anything new over the orginal N95... More memory, bigger screen, useless TV tuner don't really cut it for me.
But this phone - new screen technology, FP2 and a FM transmitter (over the original N95) is a good move.
Looks like they might have even got a reasonable set of keys for NGage.
Can't say I like sliders but that just a personal preference after having a N95...
Does it have a 3D chip for gaming?
Ive done a fair bit of Nokia bashing lately - to me, at least their recent phones haven't really been anything new over the orginal N95... More memory, bigger screen, useless TV tuner don't really cut it for me.
But this phone - new screen technology, FP2 and a FM transmitter (over the original N95) is a good move.
Looks like they might have even got a reasonable set of keys for NGage.
Can't say I like sliders but that just a personal preference after having a N95...
Does it have a 3D chip for gaming?
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